Apt quote

Feb. 25th, 2012 02:44 pm
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[personal profile] kengr
From one of [livejournal.com profile] fayanora's tweets:

I think part of the reason we have trouble drawing the line “it’s not okay to force someone into sexual activity” is that in many ways, forcing people to do things is part of our culture in general. Cut that shit out of your life. If someone doesn’t want to go to a party, try a new food, get up and dance, make small talk at the lunchtable—that’s their right. Stop the “aww c’mon” and “just this once” and the games where you playfully force someone to play along. Accept that no means no—all the time.

Date: 2012-02-25 11:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seawasp
The problem with that is that many people need serious encouragement to go places and do things. They'll say "no" for many reasons that don't have much to do with whether they will enjoy themselves, or even whether it would be a desperately good thing for them to do. This is very much true of me, and it took many years for me to learn to say "yes" when my immediate reaction was "no" -- even when the "no" was a stupid reaction.



Date: 2012-02-26 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janetmiles.livejournal.com
I think there's a happy medium somewhere between inviting, encouraging, and pressuring.

Date: 2012-02-26 01:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] seawasp
Yes. And sometimes it involves figuring out how to change No, No, No to yes.

As a parent, I have to do this a LOT. I also have to tell my wife when to accept "no" even when she wishes it was "yes" because I'm an introvert and so are some of my kids.

Date: 2012-02-26 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xander-opal.livejournal.com
For me, no means no-- even when 'no means yes.' The consequences of caution are missing out on fun; the consequences of miscommunication are disaster.

I've also had people try to drag me somewhere, either to some kind of event or to a philosophical point. The more pressure brought to bear, the more I resist. I do not appreciate being pressured into something.

I definitely fall under the introvert end of the spectrum, and social things are pure hassle for me. Add in that my work schedule and requirements, for my entire life, has left me with very little free time--I spend that little bit of time doing things I know I will enjoy. I might try something new, every once in a great while--but that is like trying a new dish at a restaurant where the meals are upwards of $50 a person. Some of us can't afford to chance going wrong.

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