Yes. "muffled garbled conversations" from the other end are sometimes what you get when a phone is tapped. I had this on a number of occassions several years ago when it was suggested my phone was tapped.
As nothing of great importance happened in any conversations they may have monitored it didn't worry me unduly.
However note that turning the phone "off" does not deactivate the bug. Dr. Roger Clarke who lectures on these things told how he refuses point blank to have any form of cellular phone in his possession.
(Dr. Clarke is a privacy consultant)
It should also be considered that there may be a number of people interested in monitoring conversations (and/or location) who are not connected to a government agency.
Cellular phones are regularly used to determine a person's location.
Perhaps you should amend the words "it's been common knowledge for a while that you shouldn't say anything on a cell phone if you want to try to keep it confidential" by deleting the words "cell phone".
Dr. Roger Clarke is the person I was referring to.
http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke
Roger can be considered a bit "paranoid" for want of a better word but he's been in the "privacy" business for many years. I met him once in Canberra at a lecture given by the author of the program PGP "Pretty Good Privacy" (Australian Computer Society Canberra). That was an interesting lecture and I have a hunch "spooks" were everwhere. I've also heard Dr. Clarke speak on other occassions.
One person who was bugged was Dr. Martin Luther King while in discussions with LBJ with regards to civil rights. J. Edgar Hoover it seems didn't trust the blacks as he regarded them a "commie sympathisers". Dr. King repudiated that with a statement explaining that while the colored people of America had been downtrodden for years very few indeed had any affiliations with Communism.
Any person who has any belief that falls outside the mainstream can be considered a potential target for surveillance.
A condition of entry into the United States used to be a sworn statement that at no time had the person seeking entry been a member of or associated with the Communist Party. It's only in recent years that this has been removed from United States entry requirements.
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Date: 2006-12-11 08:58 am (UTC)Yes. "muffled garbled conversations" from the other end are sometimes what you get when a phone is tapped. I had this on a number of occassions several years ago when it was suggested my phone was tapped.
As nothing of great importance happened in any conversations they may have monitored it didn't worry me unduly.
However note that turning the phone "off" does not deactivate the bug. Dr. Roger Clarke who lectures on these things told how he refuses point blank to have any form of cellular phone in his possession.
(Dr. Clarke is a privacy consultant)
It should also be considered that there may be a number of people interested in monitoring conversations (and/or location) who are not connected to a government agency.
Cellular phones are regularly used to determine a person's location.
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Date: 2006-12-11 09:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-12-11 08:02 pm (UTC)Perhaps you should amend the words "it's been common knowledge for a while that you shouldn't say anything on a cell phone if you want to try to keep it confidential" by deleting the words "cell phone".
Here's some articles on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_listening_device
http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke/DV/enum.html
Dr. Roger Clarke is the person I was referring to.
http://www.anu.edu.au/people/Roger.Clarke
Roger can be considered a bit "paranoid" for want of a better word but he's been in the "privacy" business for many years. I met him once in Canberra at a lecture given by the author of the program PGP "Pretty Good Privacy" (Australian Computer Society Canberra). That was an interesting lecture and I have a hunch "spooks" were everwhere. I've also heard Dr. Clarke speak on other occassions.
One person who was bugged was Dr. Martin Luther King while in discussions with LBJ with regards to civil rights. J. Edgar Hoover it seems didn't trust the blacks as he regarded them a "commie sympathisers". Dr. King repudiated that with a statement explaining that while the colored people of America had been downtrodden for years very few indeed had any affiliations with Communism.
Any person who has any belief that falls outside the mainstream can be considered a potential target for surveillance.
A condition of entry into the United States used to be a sworn statement that at no time had the person seeking entry been a member of or associated with the Communist Party. It's only in recent years that this has been removed from United States entry requirements.
Liberty is a fragile word.
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Date: 2006-12-11 09:45 pm (UTC)