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I may have mentioned the "cheater" tuna casserole recipe I got off a box of Kraft mac & cheese many *many* years back.

Basically, melt the butter/margarine and add the milk and the powdered sauce. But then add a can of cream of mushroom soup (the condensed kind) and a can (two cans now since they've shrunk so much) of tuna. Add peas. the original had a small can of canned peas, I use a cup of frozen peas instead. heat it all up and mix well. Best if you've got a pot/saucepan that can go in the oven.

Meanwhile, you've boiled the water and cooked the macaroni.

So you drain the macaroni, don't rinse. Add it to the sauce and stuff. Mix well. Put on the lid then slide it into a 350 F oven for 45 minutes or so.

Take it out, let it cool a bit and dish up. Yum.

Cheap and easy.

Well, I got a thought the other day. I've gotten some canned salmon from the food bank. So I substituted salmon for the tuna tonight.

Doesn't taste the same, but tastes ok. The cooked to much bits of bone in the salmon make an interesting "crunch" note.


It's probably better with tuna, but it's good enough with salmon.

so now I can use up more of the mac & cheese (I have way too many boxes) and salmon.

Final test will be tomorrow when I find out how it tastes cold.

Oh my.

Aug. 17th, 2016 11:19 am
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I've had some tuna steaks in the freezer for a while. Finally thawed one out and cooked it.

Oh my. I used a simple recipe off the web, took the thawed steak, rinsed it off, then pa=tted it dry with paper towels.

Put some ovile oil in a non stick skillet and set it on medium high. When the poil started smoking I put in the steak.

Recipe said to cook it for 6-9 minutes, turning once. I flipped it after 3 min, and it was a bit blacker than I liked, so I turned the heat down some and cooked it another three minutes.

When I checked it with a fork it flaked some. So I took it off plated it, and cut into it to check, It was still a bit pink in the middle, which was what the recipe said was right.

Added some salt and pepper waited a couple minutes and tried a pice.

Can you say foodgasm? Like the subject says. Oh my...

Next one I'll try marinating first.
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Between keeping weird hours and rain, this is only the second time I've been out to our garden plot this year.

[livejournal.com profile] fayanora's strawberries are trying to take over. and this time there are lots of ripe ones. I texted here so if she has time before she takes off for her usual Sunday stuff, she may harvest some. If not I'm going to grab them later today, weather permitting.

What I did grab were some of the "unplanned harvest". That is, edible "weeds".

I got the huge dandelion I was after but also grabbed a fair sized plantain (the herb, not the fruit).

Cooking up some of those now as part of breakfast. May try making a salad later today. I've got lettuce, and with the dandelion leaves and some cheese it'd do.

Gotta see about removing the leftover stalks and stuff from last year, and the non-edible weeds. Also need to find out what Fay wants to do with the excess strawberry plants. My vote is to offer them to other folks for their plots.

I also need to find out what the neal is with the raised planters (basicly stock tanks full of dirt). They're intended for the folks who don't bend over so well, and I definitely qualify. If we can get assigned one, I'll plant the carrot and radish seeds in there, and then we'll see what we can get at the nursery to but in the plot.

Also need to find out who is taking over Marty's plot since she moved out. I'd like to transplant some of her rhubarb.
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Due to food boxes plus my buying habits for "just in case" food, I have a fair amount of canned goods for an apartment dweller.

I was sorting thru the box that had soups in it checking to see what was past "pull date".

Note: for camnned goods the dates are "best by", not "Oh god, throw it it!" dates.

A certain friend who shall remain nameless annoyed the heck out of Fay and me when she posted about having been given several boxes of canned stufgf by someone who was moving and said she'd thrown most of it out because of the dates on the cans. At the time both Fay and I were kinda tight on money, and we'd *cheerfully have taken those "expired" cans....

Anyway, in the process of digging thru the soups, I found a can of tomato soup that had some dark stuff around the rim of the lid (not a good sign unless you've spilled something on it). Worse, I could see that the lid was bulging noticeably.

That one went straight into the dumpster (and buried under something so it'd be unlikely to get grabbed by something dumpster diving).

The next day while shuffling stuff in the "should be used soon" box around, I noticed another can that looked like it had a slight bulge. I checked it against yet another can. On the other can, if I poressed hard on the lid, nothing happened. On the suspcious one, a slight push caused the lid to indent a bit.

Yipe. Another one for the dumpster.

Everything else checked out ok. But tis is a reminder to actually check your stockpiles and make sure you rotate things.

Other bad signs. If you open a can that wasn't "vacuum packed" and there's a his, that preetty much means *something* generated gas in there. Not a good sign unless it's a can of pop.

and don't forget, clean the can opener after you throw out the can!
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Fay and I hit the food pantry yesterday. We got our monthly food box (I always hit them the last Saturday of the month as it's about thenm things are getting pretty bare in my cupboards).

We also got the free produce.

I am *so* glad that some nice stores donate stuff as well as the more "generic" stuff.A few items of note:

A package of Tofurkey garlic sesame chicken
a pound of ground bison
a can of artichoke hearts
a *huge* zuccinni (over 18" long and 3-4" thick)
an orange bell pepper
some nice "spring greens"

The "stone salad" was some of the spring greens, mushrooms, red onion, cucumber, some of the garlic "chicken", pepper jack, aretichoke hearts, pepperjack cheese and dressing

Everything but the cheese and dressing came from thefood pantry.

And I'll be able to make several more.

the various other veggies always tuurn my ramen from something barely nutritious (ie carbs) into something reasonably good for me and tasty as well. And other things stretch my food a *lot*.
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Saturday was Produce day. I went to the food pantry for the regular Saturday produce distribution.

Had to turn down a lot of things as I already had them. The red lettuce in the garden had looked more than ready to harvest and when Fay did so on friday it pretty much *doubled* the amount of lettuce I had. Which was way too much to start with. I did grab a few leaves of swiss chard to go with the red chard I already had. Wound up with more broccoli (I can always find a use for broccoli).

Got some apples and an orange, some juice and several other things.

Fay had been going to go with me, but her alarm didn't go off. Oh well, that meant I could go by bike and take less than half an hour round trip instead of a couple of hours.

Still had to wait over an hour at the pantry though. They "start" at 10, but at 9 there are usually half a dozen folks in line. I got there early enough to be #5.

Afte I got home, I rested a bit then Fay and I went to check out two of the farmer's markets I've mentioned. Rossi Farms is nice, but their prices may be a bit high. I got some purple potato fingerlings, some green and yellow beans, and they threw in 3 zuccinnis (green, yellow and striped) for free.

They've got some jams that looked interesting, but I need to see if the Moppethill Farms booth at Saturday market can take those senior produce checks. If they can, I'll stick with them.

We also swung by the Ron Spada Farms booth (and it was a literal *booth*. Most fireworks stands are bigger!). They had various berries and other fruit. I note that their cherries were almost as cheap as the ones I got thursday.

Didn't get anything there.

Walking between the two "markets we passed a 7-11 and I suddenly remembered what day it was. So Fay and I each got a free slurpee.

We took the 21 bus home so I could stop at the hardware store and replace the sprinkler that had disappeared from our garden plot. Yeah, the other day somebody cut one of the hoses and used it to siphon gas from someone's car. They also broke another sprinkler (still usable, as it was just the "frame" that got busted). And for whatever reason, they seem to have taken our sprinkler.

$7 poorer I have a new one. And it comes back inside with me after use.

If I'm feeling ambitious I may make a run to the storage locker and/or Saturday Market (it's open on Sundays too) later.




stats
total distance: 3.03 miles
max speed: 15.5 mph
avg speed: 6.8
moving time 26 min
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A month or two back, I got a letter offering me a chance at some "checks" for the Seniors Farm Direct Nutrition Program. I sent back the form and last mmonth I got the checks (either I got lucky in the lottery or there weren't that many folks applying).

So I had 6 $4 checks that can be spent with vendors at farmer's markets. One thing to beware of is that they don't give change. So you either buy more than $4 worth of stuff and pay cash for the rest, or you "lose" some of the money.

There was a partial list of "local" (within 20 miles or so of Portland) farmer's markets, and a link for a complete list (which I haven't gotten around to checking.

Yesterdauyy I tried calling the numbers for several of the markets on the list, but only got thru to one. It was the Cully Farmer's Market, which is only open on Thursdays. That much I already had, but from the person on the phone, I got tne hours.

BTW, none of the others answered or returned my call.

Anyway, Fay and I were going to check out the Cully market as it's the nearest one. She didn't get enough sleep last night and bowed out. So that meant that instead of wasting an hour on the bus, I was able to take my bike. Only took about 10 minutesto get there.

Pretty small, they're in a restaurant's parking lot. And only two or three booths that had actual produce (the one I'm not sure about was selling edible plants).

There were several crafty ttype booths one selling drinks, and a bakery booth. I was tempted by a couple of things at the bakery, but not at the prices.

The two produce booths were one with apricots, blueberries, and two kinds of cherries. I'm not much for apricots, and blueberries weren't doing it for me. But I got two pints of cherries. One of the red& yellow sort and one of the deep purple kind. That was $5. So I handed over one of the $4 checks and a $1 bill. %0 cents a pint for cherries. Oh yeah.

The other produce booth had figs(meh) gojiberries (didn't have any out) butter lettuce and chard. I had both lettuce andchard, so I didn't buy any, but when I need more, I'll keep them in mind.

There's market down in the Hollywood district that's open on Sasturdays. That's on the list to check out. There's one that's way out on 122nd, but the bus that runs past her runs past it as well. And it's supposed to be open 7 days a week. But we dont know the hours. And their phone wasn't answering. Probably have to waste a bus trip to check for their hours.

There's another one a few blocks off the same bus, a bit farther along.

Ooops. Missed another that's on the same bus.

So we have a few places to check out.


stats
total distance 2.33 miles
moving time 25 min
max speed 14.2 mph
avg moving: 5.6 mph
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The other day, Fay noticed a post that mentioned a plant we'd seen in our garden plot. And pulled as a weed.

https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/p/placom43.html
http://wellnessmama.com/4638/plantain-herb-profile/

Turns out that plantain (no relation to the banana-like fruit of the same name) is a useful herb and an edible plant.

I went ouyt and did some gardening tyhis morning and mentioned it to Marty. After looking it over, I found a couple in a section of her plot she hadn't gotten around to weeding yet.

She let me have them and will keep an eye out for more.

I'm gonna try some in a salad tonight. Since Fay will bee over, she can try some too.

And I''ll have to get back to Marty, because she may want some for the herbal properties, from what she was saying.

Folks, it really dooes pay to check out the plants growing in your garden *before* you pull them as weeds.

I've been grabbing dandelion greens since last year, but now I'll be adding plantain to my "list".

Also, unlike dandelion, they are rooted fairly shallow, so I'll be able to transplant them to their own corner of the plot.
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I can't thank Lin & Kermit enough for sending me a couple of flats of Nongshim Neo Guri ramen for Christmas some years back. It's *far better than Top Ramen and the like.

It's spendier too, so I generally have on Sundays. And when I'm fighting a cold, because spiciness helps.

Today, after that produce run, I got extra creative. Normally I make my ramen with some red chard, broccoli and Bar-S Cheeese Sausage.

The sausage (chopped up) and the chard goi in at the start. The boroccoli goes in after things come to a boil.

Well, since I had so many good things on hand, I used two sausages (I misremembered how many packages I had in the freezer when I did this months Winco run), chard, fresh green beans, sliced mushrooms, a bit of chopped red bell pepper, and broccoli. Used a bigger pot than usual too, because of alll the extra stuff.

Turned out great.
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Decided to ride the bike to the Saturday produce poickup at the food box place.

It was less than 15 min each way (as opposed to 45 or so minutes by bus). Got there at quarter to 9. Had 4 people in line ahead of me. Note that they don't actually start running people thru until 10.

I brought a book, so I was pok. Next time I'll remember to bring a hat. My bike helmetis ok when riding the bike but not so hot when sitting around.

Got some good stuff. Pineapple juice, a cantaloupe, some green onion, mushrooms, green beans and a grapefruit. Got some apples carrots and spuds too.

Oh yeah, got some salad greens. And a bag of black rice from the "we need to get rid of thios stuff" box at the end of the line. I grabbed some one before and it was ok. I figure I can use it to make some interesting variations on my usual rice dishes.

I did *not* take any of the chopped jalapenos or the whole ones. :-)

Gonna be able to make a few nice salads, and (since I bough eggs for a recipe last week) gonna have some killer omelets.

bike stats
2.8 miles round trip,
max: 13.5 mph
avg: 6.1 mph
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This year I once again made the mistake of buying one of the WinCo "Fruit & nut rings".

It was as bad as many people claim fruitcake is. Among other thing's less tham half the height was actual cake". The glace fruit and nuts were sort of piled on top and slightly stuck togeher by the stickiness.

Tjhe cake part was pretty dry.

After that, I had vague memories that I hadn't been that happy with the "fruit & nut dessert cake" that Albertson's sold. And at $9 for a 1 pound cake (fairly small) I decided not to risk it.

But tonight I saw several of them on the bakery mark down rack for only $3. I grabbed a couple. I just had a slice and it's not bad. Doesn't have enough fruit for a prper fruitcake, but it's moist and has decent flavor.

Given that they''ll keep for months, if anyt are left tommorrow I'll probably buy them. It'll take me a long time to go thru them if I keep the slices small, but I can freeze some of them.

Turkey day

Nov. 27th, 2014 01:10 pm
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Well, this year, for the first time in ages, I had the spare cash to take advantage of a deal. They had a buy one, get one free on turkey breasts. So I managed to score a couple of 8+ lb turkey breasts for $29 and change.

One's in the oven now. The other is still in the freezer. When it gets out, I'll make gravy from the drippings and the "mix" that was packed with it.

While it's "resting", I can make the mashed potatoes (gonna cheat and use the instant, but with rreal butter & milk), the stuffing (Stove Top) and start steaming some brussels sprouts. I can also reheat the butterflake rollls I picked up.

Got a deal on those too. If you buy the fresh ones the normal way, it's $2.99 a lb. Which gets spendy if you like them as much as I do. But the Albertsons *also* sells them on the stalk. For $3.99 a stalk. Once you get the hang of it, it's not that hard slicing them off the stalk with a big knife. From one stalk I got arounf 5 lbs of them.

I've been nibbling on "appetizers" since breakfast. mostly sliced bits of cheese (cheddar & pepperjack) and slices of summer sausage on townhouse crackers. Also got lots of black olives, and I can break out the sweet pickles later.

I bought two kinds of stuffing. I'll be making the cornbread tonight. I also have a double box of the "regular" turkey stuiffing. I'll make one of those when the cornbread stuffing runs out. The other will get saved for Christmas.

I've got eggnog that I haven't opened yet, and for dessert I have pumpkin pie and mince pie. Mince pies are *spendy*. Winco didn't have any and Albertsons (where I got it) sells them for $9.99. But I gotta have my mince pie when it's in season.

Got Cool Whip to go with the pumpkin pie. Oh yeah, it was odd about the pumpkin pie. Seems the had the *big* 3+ lb ones for $7.99 at winco. But they also had 1.5 lb ones for $2.98. Gee..

So I bought too of the 1.5 pounders.

I've got desserts set for a week or so with those pies. :-)

Probably be having stuffing with stuff for a while as well.

But I'm *really* looking forward to all the turkey sandwiches I'll be having. (but those won't be until Friday or even Saturday, today the turkey gets eaten with the trimmings).

Some of you may have noticed I don't mention cranberry sauce. While I don't hate it or anything, I'm not that into it.

I *am* drinking Canada Dry Cranberry Ginger Ale as a "holiday punch" substitute.

Have to think about Christmas. I'll have the second turkey breast, but I an also considering a ham. Leftover ham for sandwiches is good. Though I could do a beef roast...

food help

Aug. 13th, 2014 11:09 am
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I've got a friend with IBS. Sghe has so far discovered that she can't have anything spicy, can't have diary, and can't have anything in the onion/garlic familiy or the family that includes bell peppers and stuff like jalsapenos.

She needs suggestions for stuff she can get or make cheap. And given the way she reacts to the current hot spell, minimal cooking is good.
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Been able to harvest the radishes for the last week or so. Doing it for the leaves as much as the actual root.

I have tried some raw in a sandwhich (sort of like lettuce or spinach), but the odd texture is a factor. Steamed or bioled (as part of my daily batch of ramen works better. Heck, the last time I got store bought radishes, the leaves weren't the typical slimy mess so I washed them off and used them in stuff. But fresh from my own garden is better.

Someone got a bunch of plants from the food bank and Marty oversaw the split between the folks who have garden plots. Our share was three red lettuce, and three of some sort of Italian "dandelion thing (Fay looked at the tag, I didn't).

We got those planted in the garden last night. They went in the area where I'd planted some old radish & carrot seeds. All of two carrots coming up, and a handful of radishes. On the other hand, the section where I switch to new radish seeds has had top be thinned twice (no usable root, but some nice leaves).

Also did some weeding as part of picking spots for the new plants. In the process I got around to doing something I'd been intending to do for a while. There were a bunch of wild dandelions sprouting, and I harvested them. Had the leaves in the batch of ramen I'm eating now. Hey, they're edible and they made the mistake of growing in my plot. :-)

Also harvested the red garlic that was a leftover from when my plot was Marty's. Some of one stalk got chopped up (like a skinny scallion) and went it the ramen too.

What I'd originally thought was grass in the section of the plot turned out to be volunteer garlic. It seems to have seeded itself *way* too well last year. I'm just letting those grow this year. They're pretty thick on the ground, but from previous experience, they likely won't be harvestable this year. Next year (or late this year, I'll thin them out some and use the tops in food. Then next year I'll have a bunch that are usable, I hope. Then ones I harvested this year were leftover from last year).

Oh yeah, a few years back I got some broccoli starts. They went to seed because I waied too long (the heads were *tiny* and I'd been hoping they'd get bigger, A couple years ago, I'd planted some of the gazillion seed pods I'd gotten from those. Seems like a few of the seeds sprouted this year. I'got six or eight volunteer broccoli too. They were one of the reasons the lettuce and Italian dandelion are planted with odd spacing.

I don't expect big heads, given last year. But I'll get a fair amount of usable *leaves* from them. Ptretty typical given that they were probably some sort of hybrid and didn't breed true.

Also scored some goodies at the store yesterday. I was handing in my monthly set of prescriptions, and I wandered through the meat department. They had some marked down packages of "pub burgers". Normally $5 for two patties, but the two packages I spotted (the large "shreds" of cheddar in the patties had caught my attention) had $2 off stickers on them. I decided that while it was a bit spendy even then, I'd grab them.

Wasn't until I opened a package to fry one up that I realized it wasn't just cheddar mixed in but *bacon* as well. Oh my. Delicious. And quite worth the $1.50 each.

Heck, I may keep an eye out for them because they're worth it as an occasional luxury even at full price!
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I am once again reminded of something I've had to teach a number of bachelors and bachelorettes over the years.

"Squeaky clean" isn't just some odd phrase. It describes an actual condition. One that you *really* need to achieve to avoid various sorts of ick.

When you hand wash anything with a relatively smooth surface, try running you finger(s) over the surface. If it squeaks, it's clean. If it does, that's because there's still a thin layer of grease or oil coating that part of the surface.

All sorts of nasties can live and breed in that grease. Yeah, *most* of the time there isn't that much grease and nothing will happen. But all it takes is *once* to make you sick as a dog.

Even if it "merely" gives your food an "off" taste, that's a waste of the money (and time) you spent on that food.

Even if you have a dishwasher, you might want to try running a wet (with water, not spit, you slob :-) finger over a few surfaces, just to make sure the dishwasher is getting things properly clean.

Another suggestion for folks who are on their own for the first time is look into the food safety classes most local health departments give. Even if they charge for it, the food handler's card you get at the end is useful if you are looking for a job at a restaurant or even a fast food place. And (as I understand you can do in some places) if you can take it for free and just not get the card, it's worth it to learn a lot of stuff about food storage and handling that most folks don't know.

Sure, you'll probably skip a lot of the stuff they teach you. But *knowing* that you are taking a shortcut is ok because you have some idea of the risks.

Not like doing stuff because you don't *know* it's unsafe.
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While reading Customers Suck, I came across this post Mysty’s List

Besides being insanely funny it had an *amazing food idea: meatloaf cupcakes...

Turkey day

Nov. 20th, 2012 05:23 pm
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[livejournal.com profile] fayanora and I hit WinCo this afternoon for the last of the Thanksgiving supplies. We'd picked up some of the stuff that'd keep at the start of the month, and even some back in October.

Had to cut things down a bit from previous years due to finances, but stil got a fair bit.

Currently looks like:

broccoli, carrots & olives for the relish tray
ranch dip for the veggies
wheat thins for some cajun crab spread and another spread

Turkey (9.5 lbs)
Stuffing (probably at least 2 kinds, maybe a third if we eat all of one of the first two)
real mashed potatoes (got the cream, butter & milk today)
peas or corn for vegetable
Butterflake rolls
and, of course, gravy

*huge* pumpkin pie with cool whip

Also going make "punch with lemon-lime soda & cranberry cocktail.

I was going to do mulled cider but decided there were too many things on the stove already. So we'll just have that at other times between now and Christmas.
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Ganked from [livejournal.com profile] seawasp

Bold the ones you have and use at least once a year, italicize the ones you have and don't use, strike through the ones you have had but got rid of.

"I wonder how many pasta machines, breadmakers, juicers, blenders, deep fat fryers, egg boilers, melon ballers, sandwich makers, pastry brushes, cheese knives, electric woks, miniature salad spinners, griddle pans, jam funnels, meat thermometers, filleting knives, egg poachers, cake stands, garlic crushers, martini glasses, tea strainers, bamboo steamers, pizza stones, coffee grinders, milk frothers, piping bags, banana stands, fluted pastry wheels, tagine dishes, conical strainers, rice cookers, steam cookers, pressure cookers, slow cookers, spaetzle makers, cookie presses, gravy strainers, double boilers (bains marie), sukiyaki stoves, ice cream makers, and fondue sets languish dustily at the back of the nation's cupboards."

Note: I actually use the double boiler as a pair of pots. Haven't used it as an actual double boiler in years. BTW, try *finding* a double boiler outside a specialty store anymore. And I have two stove top woks I haven't used in a few years.

I also have a milkshake mixer that I use occasionally in the summer to make a sort of smoothie involving diet Squirt and sherbet. :-)

And I need to replace the electric skillet one of these days.

Protein!!

Jan. 4th, 2012 09:13 pm
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Just after Christmas I got myself a new crockpot. 6 qt, with timed cooking and even a temp probe and the ability to cook to temp, then keep things warm.

Last week I did a big pork roast (they were on sale). Earlier this week I did a turkey breast (they are still selling the ones that didn't sell for Christmas).

Today? I'm doing a 5 lb beef roast. With onions, carrots spuds and some musnrooms. Only the roast was a tighter fit than I expected. So the spuds and shrooms will go in after the meat is done.

Probably just as well. Spuds tend to get a bit too soft unless you toss them in fairly later in the cooking. So this way I can just cook them & the mushrooms with the juices & other veggies, while the roast cools.

Between the turkey (still much of it left), the roast beast, and a spiral cut ham I picked up (yet another Xmas leftover on sale) I'll have *lots* of protien to nom on. Even if it *does* make the fridge a bit crowded. :-)

Aftermath

Nov. 24th, 2011 09:15 pm
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Stupid cooking time guide was *way* off. ook a nap, got up way before earliest time turkey should be ready.

Checked it and the thingie had popped up. And the thermometer showed the stuffing was well past the required temp too.

Texted Fay and started getting other things ready. Turned off oven, but had to leave turkey in roasting pan in oven due to lack of apace while preparing everything else.

Fay got here but had bad headache, so I wound up doing the rest of the prep and cooking.

Goofed on last item. Made the last package of turkey dressing instead of first package of cornbread dressing.

Turkey was somewhat dry, but tolerable. Green beans were ok, but need a boit something besides the bacon. Have to think on that before Christmas.

Fay had servings of stuff but had to lie down. I turned out living room lights and left just the light over the stove on. That gives me enough light to use the computer or read, without making it hard for her.

When she wakes up, I'll offer her some pie, and put together a package of leftovers for her to take home. We can eat more leftovers and watch more stuff on TV (Including the rest of Alice's Restaurant) tomorrow when she should be feeling better.

Much re-arranging of fridge so I can get leftovers into it.

Also decided to start playing the extensive Xmas music collection (at low volume). It's sort of after Thanksgiving, and I *do* need to go thru all of it to find anything the new media server will choke on.

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