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kengr ([personal profile] kengr) wrote2004-11-25 05:29 pm

weird stuff

I'm listening to a bunch of Bob Rivers holiday music. And just learned to my horror that "O Little Town of Bethlehem" scan to "House of the Rising Sun"

Pardon me while I reset my brain..

[identity profile] tallin.livejournal.com 2004-11-25 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Trippy, isn't it? Gave me a bit of a turn the first time I encountered this phenomenon myself.

[identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com 2004-11-25 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and either of them will scan to "Yellow Rose of Texas"... and to a whole bunch of other stuff as well.

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This happens because all of those songs are written in what's known as "ballad meter". It's called that because so many of the old traditional ballads like "Sir Patrick Spens" and "King Henry" were written in it.

The basic scansion pattern of ballad meter is: da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM da-DUM (beat). Lots of hymns fit that pattern, as do a number of popular children's songs -- and a great deal of filk, such as Bill Sutton's "Stray Dog Man" and the verse (but not the chorus) of "Banned From Argo". And anything written in ballad meter will scan to the tune of anything else written in it! The possibilities are mind-boggling; one common filkers' game is to pick a song, such as "House of the Rising Sun", and see how many other songs can be sung to it, going around the circle by turns.
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[identity profile] janetmiles.livejournal.com 2004-11-26 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, thanks, dude, like I really *needed* that sound in my head!

:-)

[identity profile] janetmiles.livejournal.com 2004-11-26 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
"Stairway to Gilligans Island"

Yes, actually! I've heard of it, but never heard it done. janetmiles@chartertn.net , if you would.

[identity profile] janetmiles.livejournal.com 2004-11-26 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I got both files you sent. Thanks! (That's sincere, not sarcastic.)

Yet another

[identity profile] morgan-gw.livejournal.com 2004-11-27 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
"House of the Rising Sun" scans to "Amazing Grace," which scans to "Gilligan's Island."

I knew it had to do with all of these being in a fairly common meter, but thanks to [livejournal.com profile] starcat_jewel for the explanation. :-)