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kengr ([personal profile] kengr) wrote2021-12-31 05:06 pm
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Attention SF geeks

(mostly old time fans will get this)

Ok which one is supposed to be Delos D. Harriman? Jeff Bezos or Richard Branson?

[personal profile] acelightning73 2022-01-01 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Harriman was also "The Man Who Sold The Moon" - so Bezos.

[personal profile] acelightning73 2022-01-02 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking of the episode in TMWSTM where Harriman displays a correctly-scaled image of the full Moon, with a soda-pop logo painted on it in colored dust (cleverly deployed from a fireworks rocket).
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[personal profile] chanter1944 2022-01-01 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I know I'm missing a reference here, but all I can think of is the Harriman who was Enterprise-B's disaster of a captain, during her tragicomedy of a shakedown run. My vote, in that case, is Bezos, the twerp who thinks money=wisdom.

[personal profile] chanter1944 2022-01-01 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Aha. That explains it; I was put off Heinlein by Starship Troopers. For all I know, Trek's Harriman is a nod to Heinlein's.

[personal profile] acelightning73 2022-01-02 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Most people I've discussed Heinlein with lost it at Podkayne of Mars

[personal profile] acelightning73 2022-01-02 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Go read Time Enough For Love Or even Stranger in a Strange Land. Or even Have Space-Suit - Will Travel.
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[personal profile] stickmaker 2022-01-01 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)

Ever notice the parallels between _Requiem_ and the subplot and ending of _Space Cowboys_?
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[personal profile] siliconshaman 2022-01-01 10:03 am (UTC)(link)

Harriman was at least likeable, so Branson I guess is nearest of the two.

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[personal profile] siliconshaman 2022-01-01 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)

Harriman wasn't a robber-baron, he was a hustler. A conman with principles if you like. Witness him convincing two soda companies (obviously meant to be cola and pepsi) that their rival was about to sponsor him to write their brand name across the face of the moon. So they'd each pay him to do no such thing.

Branson is no hustler, and Bezos is just a straight up shark. Branson would solicit sponsorship from whomever could pay the most, and Bezos would take both companies money and then renege on the deal and sic his lawyers on them.

I counter-propose that the closest we have to Harriman is actually Elon Musk. He has that element of showmanship that neither of the other two have, but he also has no need for anyone else's money to get where he's going... which btw, is lot more ambitious than anyone else, including Harriman! He's proposing to single-handily (well, him and his company) build all of the necessary infrastructure to successfully colonise Mars. Even Harriman only aimed for a privately funded version of an apollo moon-shot, not building a million strong city on Mars.

Edited 2022-01-01 12:56 (UTC)
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[personal profile] siliconshaman 2022-01-01 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)

huh, yeah you're right. I misremembered that. Still, the idea still stands. It was a hustle.

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[personal profile] stickmaker 2022-01-01 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)

Maybe we need a transporter "accident" to merge the two. ;-)
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[personal profile] chanter1944 2022-01-02 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Oh lord, that's a terrifying thought. On the one hand, Tuvix. On the other... see icon. :(