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kengr ([personal profile] kengr) wrote2018-12-19 10:05 am

Insight

While talking about a number of things with [personal profile] alatefeline last night a couple of things came up.

One was unconscious assumptions. The other was the old canard "it takes two to make a fight".

While reading this article, the two ideas bashed together in my head.

The problem with "it takes two to fight" is the horribly inaccurate assumption it makes about "male" interactions in childhood. Namely that the choice is "fight"/"don't fight".

In reality, the choice is "get beat up"/"try to protect yourself". so it's actually unconscious gaslighting.

I mentioned "male" above because in my experience, it's always the female authority figures spouting this nonsensical piece of "wisdom". I suspect that is because of the differences in "male" and "female" socialization. Boys are expected to have fights. girls are "trained" to attack in less physical ways.

Though come to think of it, "it takes to to have a fight" *should* be equally applicable (and wrong) to the social sniping among girls, which can get *really* nasty by high school.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names can never hurt me" is another horrible example of gaslighting kids and is another bit of "wisdom" that should be stomped on *hard*.

Name calling can do *more* damage than physical assault, Bruises, even broken bones heal a lot faster than the emotional damage those "harmless" words can inflict.

I know I'm far from the only person to have PTSD from *emotional* abuse.
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[personal profile] stickmaker 2018-12-20 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)

In many schools, fighting back is considered "prolonging the violence" and officially banned. Of course, what prolongs the violence is letting bullies get away with hurting other kids.

I have over 30 years of self-defense martial arts training and even taught a few friends. Propper self-defense can be something as simple as easily breaking the grip of someone trying to intimidate you, or blocking a punch without hitting back. Yet in some schools such actions will get the defender in more trouble from authorities than that levied upon the attacker.