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kengr ([personal profile] kengr) wrote2015-12-06 05:26 pm
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No Fly List

Ok, first it was Hillary Clinton, and now it's President Obama calling to deny gun sales to people on the No Fly list.

It may *sound* like a good idea. Unfortunately, unless things have changed recently, the No Fly list is *notorious* for having major errors. People with the same name as suspects, people who got put on it for stupid reasons or because prejudice.

Then add in the fact that getting your name off the list is practically impossible, because there's *no* established means for getting your inclusion reviewed and corrected.

If they want to make it a "can't buy" list, then the legislation should also set forth the requirement that you be able to challenge your inclusion on the list in court. And establish better guidelines for adding people to it. Including penalties for the people who put people on it who shouldn't be on it.

If they don't put in these *needed* reforms in the list, then they've got no business extending the things that it can be used to deny people. (mind you they shouldn't be using it *now* due to these same defects)

[identity profile] robby.livejournal.com 2015-12-07 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard talk about prohibiting people on "the terrorist watch list", which is somewhat the same. Strangely enough, 73 employees of the Dept of Homeland Security are on that list. The best idea is to indict the individuals that are truly a threat, and then they automatically cant legally purchase firearms.

[identity profile] stickmaker.livejournal.com 2015-12-07 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)

There's also the Constitutional issue that few - if any - of those on either list have been tried and convicted. They are being punished without being allowed to defend themselves in court.