Post to someone arguing about transgender bathroom access
http://www.rhjunior.com/nip-and-tuck-58/
http://www.rhjunior.com/nip-and-tuck-59/
See comments on second cartoon. But please, don't pile on, from previous experience it'll take careful arguing to *possibly* make a change in his position. Pushing hard will translate int "I'm being persecuted" which helps nobody.
Ok, let's start out simple. People *do* have the legal right to wear whatever they want subject to laws regarding indecent exposure/public indecency.
So. Women can legally wear "mens" clothing. That's been established for most of a century.
Men can legally wear "womens" clothing. that hasn't been established quite as long in some places, but it's still been legal for decades.
This is *settled* law. Not something that is likely to change no matter how loud folks protest.
Now consider the question of bathrooms. Under the law people *do* have the right to use public bathrooms (and that includes the non-employee bathrooms in businesses and schools, etc). Again, very much settled law.
So, If you have someone cross-dressed (be it a woman in mens clothes, a Female-to-Male transsexual,, a male cross-dresser, or a Male-to-Female transsexual) which bathroom do they use?
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http://www.rhjunior.com/nip-and-tuck-59/
See comments on second cartoon. But please, don't pile on, from previous experience it'll take careful arguing to *possibly* make a change in his position. Pushing hard will translate int "I'm being persecuted" which helps nobody.
Ok, let's start out simple. People *do* have the legal right to wear whatever they want subject to laws regarding indecent exposure/public indecency.
So. Women can legally wear "mens" clothing. That's been established for most of a century.
Men can legally wear "womens" clothing. that hasn't been established quite as long in some places, but it's still been legal for decades.
This is *settled* law. Not something that is likely to change no matter how loud folks protest.
Now consider the question of bathrooms. Under the law people *do* have the right to use public bathrooms (and that includes the non-employee bathrooms in businesses and schools, etc). Again, very much settled law.
So, If you have someone cross-dressed (be it a woman in mens clothes, a Female-to-Male transsexual,, a male cross-dresser, or a Male-to-Female transsexual) which bathroom do they use?
( Read more... )