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kengr ([personal profile] kengr) wrote2004-05-19 11:04 pm
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HTML help requested

I'm using the validator at w3.org to check my web pages. It's caught some stuff, but there's one "error" that I'm tearing my hair over.

It doesn't like the table tag. The specific error it's giving is:

document type does not allow element "TABLE" here; missing one of "APPLET", "OBJECT", "MAP", "IFRAME", "BUTTON" start-tag

Anybody want to explain what the hell they are talking about?
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[identity profile] farquhar.livejournal.com 2004-05-20 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
generally it means thatthe tag in which the table tag is contained in can't have a table in it.

[sometag] [table] ...

[identity profile] farquhar.livejournal.com 2004-05-20 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
the parse tree helps to see the container relationship and the dtd is sometimes clearer in showing containment rules.
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[personal profile] kengr 2004-05-20 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
What "parse tree"?

[identity profile] farquhar.livejournal.com 2004-05-20 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
A parse tree shows the structure of your page as parsed by the validator. The validator has an extended interface that shows the parse tree. Example output based on my site.
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[personal profile] kengr 2004-05-20 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
Only tags before the table tag inside the body tag are a div tag and a font tag.

In fact, here's the entirety of the doc up thru the start of the table:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Brooke's Adult Check</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FF0000">
<div align="center">
<font size="+2">
<table width="80%" border="0" align="center">

[identity profile] farquhar.livejournal.com 2004-05-20 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think a font tag can hold a table tag legally. IE and many user agents will vender the results but it isn't good HTML grammar.

But the answer is: a font can't hold a table. under the rules. the latest "rules" say front is old don't use it anymore, use styles instead.
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[personal profile] kengr 2004-05-20 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. The page is one I got from someone else (with permission) and have been modifying to fit my needs.

I don't know "styles" yet, and I'd just as soon put them off a bit longer.

Moving the font tag helped, now I've got problems with "div align=" which is probably the same sort of thing.

[identity profile] farquhar.livejournal.com 2004-05-20 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
Try HTML Tidy it can do much cleanup safely.
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[personal profile] kengr 2004-05-20 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I managed to get it fixed myself. And removed a bunch of unneded crud in the process.

And more to the point, I learned more about HTML.
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